Bearing PTO / FD51

[Brt]

Hi All,

 

My first post on this forum. I bought a C202 a year ago and completly stripped it and I am now rebuilding it. I am from the Netherlands so my Swedish is not so good ;-)

My C202 has a FD51 transfercase (standard) and has the optional PTO + winch.

After checking my transfer case I noticed the PTO part  for the winch (optional) is missing a bearing. See the pics to explain better.

Sometimes only a cover is placed but if you have PTO this "clutch" is used. It is a vacuum clutch and swicthes PTO (winch).

 

questions:

• Does anybody know which bearing or replacement bearing  is/can be used in the PTO clutch of the transfer case? 
• Is this a metric or an imperial bearing?

 

 

Thanks.

[Overdrive]

I don't know but Mr Eile knows everything. Eile?

 

Welcome to the forum! Looking forward to follow the renovation of your C202 in it's own tread with loads of pictures 

[eile]

You can messure axel for inside diameter and this bearing is only to make pto clutch steady outside is 47 mm and i think 10-12 mm tickness.

 

I think someone has take out this bearing för giving maximum life at fd 51 if you look close to haw its builded you see the misstake the done that i long term kill them, I have also thinking many time to take out that bearing.

This is what happens:   Impossible to give link to right page but look at page 215   2017 aug and september

 

 

 

 

 

[Brt]

Hi Eile, seems good point you have. The big bearing will have no lubrication anymore.

What is smart:

• cancel the pto winch and use an electric one?
• put grease in that area?
• other idea: use a bearing without seals and only an open cage? Not sure if this will be open enough to solve the problem.
• other idea: a brass bush with holes to let the oil go through. No ball bearing but a slide bearing (custom made). There is not too much power on this bearing i think. 

 

open bearing example:

 

Maybe off topic:

Another thing i noticed in this page 215 is the clutch. I am also looking to renew the clutch (pressure plate/lamel plate/bearing).

i found the clutch of a 164 fits.  Is that correct?

 

regards

brt

[Brt]

15 hours ago, Overdrive said:

I don't know but Mr Eile knows everything. Eile?

 

Welcome to the forum! Looking forward to follow the renovation of your C202 in it's own tread with loads of pictures 

Hi Overdrive, which forum would be good to place some pics?

[eile]

Problem is not the bearing lubrication , it is the transfer gear, mine was rebuilded to m47 overdrive sometime after it has done the first turn around on the km meter (more than 100K km).

and I had the short transfer gear and it look like this before rebuild, so I think maximum i 200K km you can get out on this gears and that construction.

 

 

 

 

 

Clutch: 164 had one modell that fits but just that one was no common and not possible to find, but pressure plate fits, its a topic on this forum about lamel and i think landrover has the right one, When i had 4 speed m45 on mine a drove with m46 m47 shaft its fits m45 and easy to find lamel.

[Brt]

ok, i see. My thought was if you open de bearing the teeth of the gear will be better lubricated but I think these gears are in another position/location (bit more back). I have to check my one and see if I have the short or the long version.

Do you knoiw about the clucth? I just got the info the pitch of the mounting holes on the flywheel is the same for C202 vs 164.

thanks!

[Overdrive]

På 2019-06-30 på 07:46, Brt säger:

Hi Overdrive, which forum would be good to place some pics?

 

Make a new tread especially for your C202 here in "Volvo valp/felt/C202" where you can document every progress of your renovation. Looking forward to some good reading.